Some newly drawn buildings have just turned up on my local map and the source key has not been added. As buildings are rare in our location I've checked out buildings and other features in London and Munich and found this to be common. If I check an author's edit I note that often the source is mentioned in the comment. Is stating the source in the edit comment an alternative to adding the source key to the properties of the feature? asked 27 Feb '11, 16:35 chrisboucher |
Generally putting the source on an object is not the best way to do it, as it creates a lot of entries that the next user would potentially have to modify when modifying the object. E.g. if there is a building and you are then attaching a usage or other amenity which occupies the building you won't be able to derive this information from aerial imagery. The better approach is to use changeset comments for source information. This requires that you group your edits into changesets with the same source though, but it ensures that the information is set where it applies to: to the edit. answered 27 Feb '11, 17:37 dieterdreist |
When I have been using Bing imagery for building outlines, I use the tags answered 03 Mar '11, 12:22 netman55 |
I've already read that adding the source on a changeset is an intesting solution for multi-sourced objects properties. But you can edit objects using aerial imagery and physical survey, and the problem is the same. I've not found a clear and complete solution on documentation, but what is possible is:
answered 28 Feb '11, 13:06 NicolasDumoulin Jonathan Ben... Multiple values are not a problem for the source key (you can also use freetext with "and" because this is mainly a message to the following mappers). Still it is really not that simple adding a detailed source. E.g. for Bing the imagery in my area is different (age/alignment/season) in Z18/19 and Z20. We also have no method to keep trace with Bing updates or changes. Personally I don't feel that this is an important information anyway: either the object is OK or it is wrong in which case I would correct it. Exceptions might be hq-imports from official sources and dates e.g. for population.
(28 Feb '11, 15:06)
dieterdreist
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Putting the source on the changeset may be easier for you, but I think it makes it harder to trace back the source of particular bits of information as the object undergoes multiple changes. It also requires additional API calls (multiple For me, when I tag If I want to combine multiple sources I make this clear using something like,
This way you can explicitly tag the source of any tag using Using answered 05 Mar '11, 22:42 aharvey putting the source to the changeset is not only easier for you, it is also easier for the other mappers. If you look at the currently provided method from osm to lookup the history of an object: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/12345685/history you can see that it is much easier to look at the changeset comments then to rely on the different tags. When would you remove the source tag? Objects in OSM are not static nor should they be. They are continuously modified and each of this modifications, often performed just on a fraction of an object, may have their own source.
(06 Mar '11, 16:28)
dieterdreist
I can see why that might make sense, but if you put the source on the changeset then you can't use multiple sources. eg. you may make multiple changes to a multiple objects in one changeset, you can't put all 4 different source tags in the changeset tags. The source would be removed if the source changes. eg. if it was previously source:location=landsat, and the location of the object was improved from high-res imagery, upon the change, the tag would get changed to source:location=provider. The source tag tied to another tag for an object doesn't imply that you can't use a different source.
(19 Mar '11, 10:14)
aharvey
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